Discussion:
[talk-au] South Australia Speed Cameras
Anthony Panozzo
2021-04-26 01:26:04 UTC
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Over the last month I have gone through every single speed camera from this list SAPOL - Traffic camera locations (police.sa.gov.au)<https://www.police.sa.gov.au/your-safety/road-safety/traffic-camera-locations> (fixed camera locations) and Speed Cameras | Lead to Safer Roads | Government of South Australia<https://www.speedcameras.sa.gov.au/#camera-locations> and added them all, I made a excel spreadsheet which has the OSM positions too.
Graeme Fitzpatrick
2021-04-26 02:14:27 UTC
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Post by Anthony Panozzo
Over the last month I have gone through every single speed camera from
this list SAPOL - Traffic camera locations (police.sa.gov.au)
<https://www.police.sa.gov.au/your-safety/road-safety/traffic-camera-locations>
(fixed camera locations) and Speed Cameras | Lead to Safer Roads |
Government of South Australia
<https://www.speedcameras.sa.gov.au/#camera-locations> and added them
all, I made a excel spreadsheet which has the OSM positions too.
Sorry to be a pain, Anthony, but do we actually have permission to use that
info, together with waivers?

Thanks

Graeme
Graeme Fitzpatrick
2021-04-26 07:10:11 UTC
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It’s from the government, can’t see why not, a lot of them I added from
personal knowledge and just used the .gov link to keep track of which ones
I have added and not, here is a link to every speed camera on OSM in
Australia http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10NY you can export them as gpx etc
to use on your gps
Sorry Anthony, I agree that that would make sense, but just because it's a
Govt Dept, doesn't automatically mean that they will allow us to use their
data :-(

If it's not listed in the Oz Data Catalogue
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue, then you
would need to contact them & get their OK, together with a waiver, before
using any of their info.

Thanks

Graeme
*Sent:* Monday, 26 April 2021 11:44 AM
*Subject:* Re: [talk-au] South Australia Speed Cameras
Over the last month I have gone through every single speed camera from
this list SAPOL - Traffic camera locations (police.sa.gov.au)
<https://www.police.sa.gov.au/your-safety/road-safety/traffic-camera-locations>
(fixed camera locations) and Speed Cameras | Lead to Safer Roads |
Government of South Australia
<https://www.speedcameras.sa.gov.au/#camera-locations> and added them
all, I made a excel spreadsheet which has the OSM positions too.
Sorry to be a pain, Anthony, but do we actually have permission to use
that info, together with waivers?
Thanks
Graeme
Graeme Fitzpatrick
2021-04-26 23:19:46 UTC
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Ok maybe try replying to the au-talk email instead of my private email, I
am blocking your email from contacting me directly
*Sent:* Monday, 26 April 2021 4:40 PM
A peculiarity of the way the Au mailing list has been set up is that, if
you only click "Reply" your message only goes to the sender, not the list.
If you click "Reply-All", it will go to both, but you should only get one
copy of the message.

Thanks

Graeme

*Subject:* Re: [talk-au] South Australia Speed Cameras
It’s from the government, can’t see why not, a lot of them I added from
personal knowledge and just used the .gov link to keep track of which ones
I have added and not, here is a link to every speed camera on OSM in
Australia http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10NY you can export them as gpx etc
to use on your gps
Sorry Anthony, I agree that that would make sense, but just because it's a
Govt Dept, doesn't automatically mean that they will allow us to use their
data :-(
If it's not listed in the Oz Data Catalogue
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue, then you
would need to contact them & get their OK, together with a waiver, before
using any of their info.
Thanks
Graeme
*Sent:* Monday, 26 April 2021 11:44 AM
*Subject:* Re: [talk-au] South Australia Speed Cameras
Over the last month I have gone through every single speed camera from
this list SAPOL - Traffic camera locations (police.sa.gov.au)
<https://www.police.sa.gov.au/your-safety/road-safety/traffic-camera-locations>
(fixed camera locations) and Speed Cameras | Lead to Safer Roads |
Government of South Australia
<https://www.speedcameras.sa.gov.au/#camera-locations> and added them
all, I made a excel spreadsheet which has the OSM positions too.
Sorry to be a pain, Anthony, but do we actually have permission to use
that info, together with waivers?
Thanks
Graeme
Daniel O'Connor
2021-04-27 06:21:15 UTC
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While it's unfortunate that we'll probably have to revert these unless
permission is granted beyond the CC BY 3.0/4.0 it seems to be licenced
under, it's a worthwhile dataset to try and collect.


We do have a lot of mapillary imagery, which is concentrated on major roads:
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=2HbJuQpe6LbgU0CcssZ0Ig&focus=photo

With the 'map features' plugin, it does detect some of the traffic cameras.

Is there value in transforming the data we can't use into notes/a shared
spreadsheet and treating that as a prompt to check other sources? From the
looks of it, there are... under 200 cameras? That seems within reach to
crowdsource.
Post by Graeme Fitzpatrick
Ok maybe try replying to the au-talk email instead of my private email, I
am blocking your email from contacting me directly
*Sent:* Monday, 26 April 2021 4:40 PM
A peculiarity of the way the Au mailing list has been set up is that, if
you only click "Reply" your message only goes to the sender, not the list.
If you click "Reply-All", it will go to both, but you should only get one
copy of the message.
Thanks
Graeme
*Subject:* Re: [talk-au] South Australia Speed Cameras
It’s from the government, can’t see why not, a lot of them I added from
personal knowledge and just used the .gov link to keep track of which ones
I have added and not, here is a link to every speed camera on OSM in
Australia http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10NY you can export them as gpx etc
to use on your gps
Sorry Anthony, I agree that that would make sense, but just because it's
a Govt Dept, doesn't automatically mean that they will allow us to use
their data :-(
If it's not listed in the Oz Data Catalogue
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue, then you
would need to contact them & get their OK, together with a waiver, before
using any of their info.
Thanks
Graeme
*Sent:* Monday, 26 April 2021 11:44 AM
*Subject:* Re: [talk-au] South Australia Speed Cameras
Over the last month I have gone through every single speed camera from
this list SAPOL - Traffic camera locations (police.sa.gov.au)
<https://www.police.sa.gov.au/your-safety/road-safety/traffic-camera-locations>
(fixed camera locations) and Speed Cameras | Lead to Safer Roads |
Government of South Australia
<https://www.speedcameras.sa.gov.au/#camera-locations> and added them
all, I made a excel spreadsheet which has the OSM positions too.
Sorry to be a pain, Anthony, but do we actually have permission to use
that info, together with waivers?
Thanks
Graeme
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